patillian's Application - Part Two

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patillian

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patillian's Application - Part Two

General Information

Username: patillian

Discord: patillian#9777

Age: 15

GameME: GameME

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:83288308

Voice Recording: Here

Timezone & Online Times: EST
Monday - Friday (Quarantine): 12:00 PM - 2:00 AM
Monday - Friday (Post-Quarantine): 3:00 PM - 12:00 AM
Saturday - Sunday: 12:00 PM - 2:00 AM


Questions

Why are you applying?
Just like the time of my previous application, I enjoy playing on Wonder. I still like the people and I enjoy seeing the new faces that join Wonder. I am still a very active member on Wonder.tf servers and still see the lack of moderation for my time zone. For example, sometimes when I’m playing I witness something go wrong, go to report it, and low and behold, there are no staff online, so a report would be pointless. Wonder has quite a few staff members but half the time they’re inactive. Players on the server still ask me questions about the server rules and I answer them correctly to the best of my knowledge, and if I’m unsure about a specific rule, I do not feed them false information, I tell them to clear it up with staff.

Do you have any previous experience administrating?
I do have previous administration experience. I was admin on a server called European Studs for 4 years. I have since left European Studs to show my dedication towards Wonder. I also have previous admin experience on Wonder of course. I have also developed the server known as "MoonRock," so I know more than your average staff member. I know all the commands for Wonder and have helped new moderators with commands.

If you have previous experience can we confirm it and where would we do so?
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Why should we choose you over all other applicants?

Well, when I was moderator, I was one of, if not the most, active staff member. I try to play at least an hour every day. Before I was banned, I played everyday, then after I was unbanned, I still played every day because I genuinely enjoy playing on Wonder. I answer questions regarding Wonder’s jailbreak rules and always answer them correctly unless it’s something I have no idea about like “does knife pit include the stairs to knife pit?” If something comes up that I do not have the correct answer to, I teach them how to ask a staff member. Even while I was banned I was helping Vlad with bans against players, for example the aimbotter “Big succ.” When I got demoted I had full access to my sourcebans account because it was never deactivated and I never used it because I knew that would be irresponsible. I then made Vlad aware of my account being active and asked him deactivate it and so he did. I’m just saying that I have never been against Wonder, even though many of you think I have.

What personality traits do you possess?
  1. Chill
  2. Considerate
  3. Responsible
  4. Lenient
  5. Risible
Elaborate your chosen traits
Chill:
When it comes to a stressful situation like being yelled at to ban someone quickly or to respawn someone that was freekilled, It's hard for me to be mad so I'm calm and handle the situation properly. I’m also just a relaxed person and easy to talk to.

Responsible: Whenever I do something wrong I don’t make excuses and I take the blame for my actions. When someone asks me my opinion on something, I am honest to a fault, I don’t sugarcoat my statements to benefit myself. I’m honest about what I do and if I was at fault. If I abuse my powers, I admit to doing so and accept my punishment.

Risible: I am explaining this trait for the second time because it’s my key trait. I laugh at pretty much everything, but I know the difference between teasing and disrespect. When someone is teased on the server and the person is alright with it, I laugh. If the person is genuinely offended by what someone says, I ask them to stop and give them a warning. I may laugh a lot, but I’m not a monster.

How would you improve the community?
I would improve this community by once again becoming one of the most active staff members and continue to assist other staff with punishments and commands. I will be fully dedicated to Wonder as I was before. I will handle all of the reports I can, like I used to. I will continue to answer any and all questions about Wonder.tf rules. I will ask questions if I am unsure about a rule. I will be sure to ask for help if I am uncertain about a punishment.

How have you helped the community up until now?
Before I was on staff, I helped players understand the rules and if a rule was unclear, I would ask on the forums. After becoming ex-staff, I kept assisting players with rules and how to report a problem. As I mentioned before, I also helped Vlad with banning the known aimbotter on Wonder, “Big succ.” I have never done something incorrectly and kept it that way, I was always sure to fix a ban if I did it incorrectly the first time. Not trying to brag but even ask the community, I was a good moderator and tried to solve every problem I could while I was active, which was most of the day and night. Don’t think negatively just because of MoonRock. My intentions with MoonRock was never to rival Wonder, I even tried becoming allies with Wonder, but Maf’s intentions were otherwise. If Interlude can let bygones be bygones, I don’t see why you guys can’t.

Can you work under somebody who is younger than you?
Of course I can. I’m a young one myself, so as long as the person is fine with me, I’m fine with them. As I said on my previous application, age doesn’t matter if they’re mature enough for the job. Again, please don’t take that previous line out of context.

Have you applied to any other community in the past month?
No, I have been waiting for my chance to come back here.

P. S.
I would like to say thank you to Interlude and Neat for giving me a second chance. If you have any questions or concerns about me and MoonRock, feel free to ask so I can explain the truth.
 
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agroteddybear

sometimes i dream about cheese
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+1, despite the situation that occurred and your demotion, I would be happy to be able to work with you on the staff team. I have seen you moderate first hand and I can confidently say everything in your application is truthful. I know you've learned from the past and I know for a fact that the community would be happy to have you back.
 

Catualus

Not friendly.
Staff member
Feb 18, 2020
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I don't know... Where am I?
Hi, Patillian,

Nice application you've written here, overall really interesting how you wrote almost the exact same thing from your last application in this one, but it's just different explained.

For example, sometimes when I’m playing I witness something go wrong, go to report it, and low and behold, there are no staff online, so a report would be pointless.
If staff aren't online in discord, it doesn't mean the report won't be viewed when they come online. If you're afraid that the report won't be noticed, we have a really cool thing here in forums, called reports. This definitely won't be missed, since most of the staff members still use forums to give answers either in bugs or questions, I don't know if you knew this, but we use forums for application, appeals and reports too. (I know we do have a reports channel in discord, but probably 17% of all players from wonder.tf don't use discord, so they use reports in here.


I also have previous admin experience on Wonder of course.
Yes, you do have admin experience from Wonder.tf, but it isn't really "clean", before you were demoted, you somehow managed to leak staff-chat and abused in-game. Keep in mind you didn't resign, you were demoted, which, in my opinion, will affect your application for staff.


Don’t think negatively just because of MoonRock. My intentions with MoonRock was never to rival Wonder, I even tried becoming allies with Wonder, but Maf’s intentions were otherwise.
About your community, MoonRock. Maf decided to advertise MoonRock in Wonder, if I'm not wrong it was both in-game and in discord. You telling me in dm's, that you were trying to stop people from advertising in your discord is appreciated, but, as much as I know, you didn't contact any of the staff members, you didn't tell staff that you aren't trying to make them advertise and that you don't like it.
(If I'm not wrong, but a community advertising themselves on other communities, will affect the community (MoonRock) too, both negatively and positively.)


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Right after you applied, you dm'd me that you sung something, which is really cool, but right below that message, you asked me to "Check forums when you get the chance" I don't know if it's to check your voice-recording, or your whole application. Both of which I can see as impatience. Like I mentioned above, it's good to know that you didn't want people to advertise, but I didn't see you trying to stop it that much either.

With all of that being said, you:
1. Leaking staff-chat;
2. Abusing your powers;
3.Getting demoted;
4.Launching your community.


My vote will be -1, good luck.
 

patillian

Krusty Krab Trainee
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Mar 25, 2020
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Yes, you do have admin experience from Wonder.tf, but it isn't really "clean", before you were demoted, you somehow managed to leak staff-chat and abused in-game. Keep in mind you didn't resign, you were demoted, which, in my opinion, will affect your application for staff.
The leaking of staff-chat had no evidence as Vlad told me that the guy who I "leaked" just assumed I did and complained to Vlad multiple times saying I leaked it three times. Which I did not. I did leak it once by accident but Maf kept talking about the one piece of information I leaked. Leaking staff-chat only results in a temporary demotion, about 2-3 weeks, hence why M1ghty will be getting it back in 2 weeks or so. If MoonRock never happened, I would be staff already.

The abuse of powers I did was bad, I understand. I was warned for them twice so I finally stopped teleporting and respawning myself. About a week went by without my abusing anything, but then I was demoted for leaking staff-chat.

About your community, MoonRock. Maf decided to advertise MoonRock in Wonder, if I'm not wrong it was both in-game and in discord. You telling me in dm's, that you were trying to stop people from advertising in your discord is appreciated, but, as much as I know, you didn't contact any of the staff members, you didn't tell staff that you aren't trying to make them advertise and that you don't like it.
(If I'm not wrong, but a community advertising themselves on other communities, will affect the community (MoonRock) too, both negatively and positively.)
I understand your concern but, yes, Maf did advertise, but while he did that, I tried to stop him. But Maf isn't me. Vlad knows that I posted an announcement saying to stop advertising and talking about Wonder on MoonRock and MoonRock on Wonder. I was never trying to "start a war" with Wonder like someone said in Discord. The only communication I had with any staff members was with Vlad on Discord because I had him added on Discord. When I talked to Vlad, I also tried warning him about incoming DDoSing threats that happened in MoonRock against Wonder. I then banned anyone who made any threat against Wonder, for example "Big succ." I can't stop people from hating Wonder, because people who got banned will always dislike this server, but that has nothing to do with me. MoonRock didn't tell people to hate Wonder, MoonRock just grouped them up in one Discord server by accident.

Right after you applied, you dm'd me that you sung something, which is really cool, but right below that message, you asked me to "Check forums when you get the chance" I don't know if it's to check your voice-recording, or your whole application. Both of which I can see as impatience. Like I mentioned above, it's good to know that you didn't want people to advertise, but I didn't see you trying to stop it that much either.
I'm sorry if you thought I was being impatient, I was just happy about my voice recording because I really liked it, and you said "do it" when I said something about doing Johnny Test as my voice recording so I got excited to show you.

I tried to stop advertising as much as I could. Even people that I banned from MoonRock went on Wonder and started advertising MoonRock, and they were rightfully banned from Wonder.

With all of that being said, you:
1. Leaking staff-chat;
2. Abusing your powers;
3.Getting demoted;
4.Launching your community.
1. No Evidence Towards It, but I did leak it once
2. Was warned about that twice, so I completely stopped
3. The demotion was only supposed to be 2 weeks, Vlad told me.
4. The community that I never wanted to advertise. The real reason I even took the developing job of MoonRock is because I knew how to develop a server with plugins and such, so Maf offered me it. I saw it as a good learning experience because I've never worked on a 24/7 running server before.
 

Just Regular Lemonade

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+1 I believe he deserves a second chance, he has prior experience and is still clearly dedicated to our servers despite being demoted most people would be very discouraged and leave, but he didn't, the reasons for being demoted do raise a concern but I think it would be unfair to push him away for his mistakes if he can clearly show us that he's learned from them I think he should be welcomed back.
I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your app.
 

PandaGamer

Barack Obama
Mar 23, 2020
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+1 I have to agree with milk here he deserves a second chance and when he did the bad bad he was warned and never did it again and for the staff leak, everyone makes mistakes just like M1ghty (no offense) and when he was staff he did a pretty good job at it so that's why I'm giving a +1
 

patillian

Krusty Krab Trainee
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Mar 25, 2020
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Toronto, Canada
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I understand the concerns about me abusing my powers. The abuse I did was teleporting and respawning myself, I did not intend to destroy anyone's experience. If you would like to see the examples of my abuse, there are videos of it happening. You could see that I never did anything major, so I was only warned for those things.

After I was warned, I never abused again and played like a regular staff member. I just wanted to experience the commands because I saw other staff members do the same thing before and no harm came from it. I do see the wrong in what I did though.

I then accidentally leaked staff chat about a week later after I was warned for "admin abuse."

The Story Of The Staff Chat Leak
It all started when I became very close with this player named "Maf." While I was playing jailbreak after I became staff, I started talking to Maf in a Discord call. One night I saw the information that I leaked. I then started talking about it with Maf as a regular conversation because Maf and I knew the person the information was about. At first, I thought it was harmless telling Maf because I didn't think anything of it and just rambled on to make conversation. Me being a talkative person, kept going on about the same thing for that one conversation. A few days later, I caught wind of Maf telling that information to the entire server about the one person. Yes, it was my fault for leaking staff chat, but I never intended any harassment or harm to that person. I did leak it once by accident, but I never leaked it multiple times like the person claimed. Maf kept talking about the same information multiple times.
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^ Saying that I did it multiple times.

The person I leaked (CrabBattle) made it a bigger deal than it really was. He went on to trash talk me to my friends and other staff members. He also deleted select messages that would make him look bad, as you can see in the video. Who knows what else he did to manipulate other people into thinking I should be demoted. The video I'm going to show might lighten the blow on me "leaking" staff chat.
^ Credit to my buddy Kota for recording this evidence.
Video Description
He went on to message one of my best-friends Kota, and say "when pat abused respawning to rejoin jailbreak and try to steal lr from someone a few times, he got reported, he leaked who reported him to maf who then harrassed them aka me" "he then leaked more staff logs which had my personal info and harrassed me even more and spread that info" "guy is a toxic dick." Then said "by he i mean pat, then maf" "yeah, point is, pat caused this level of toxic in la before he got demoted" "i had 3 rounds of him respawning and trying to trick the warden into giving him lr and not the guy who won, once it worked ._."

When Ramsay, one of the mods at the time, asked him about him trashtalking me, he responded with "i have no idea whats your talking about" "ignore kota, he's just harrass me like maf did." Even though all Kota was trying to do at the time was defend me. Ramsay responded to CrabBattle saying "So you haven't been talking shit about pat?" CrabBattle responded with "no, i got asked about why he was demoted and i mentioned that a few other users where recently acting toxic so pat could be repromoted" "i didnt say pat was toxic." Which he clearly did say. In my DMs he told me "hey i didnt say that" "you are being trolled." He's referring to him calling me toxic. "kota tried to get me to join a private channel with maf, so maf could harrass me, by trying to birbe me, i said no so hes sitring shit" "i mentioend it to vlad a bit ago, as i saew mention of it report feedback, that the server has been gettng a lot more toxic as of late" "not that you where m8"

Sources
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^ Kota's DMs with CrabBattle

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^ My DMs with CrabBattle

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^ Ramsay's DMs with CrabBattle

Why Am I Showing This?
I'm showing this information to prove to everyone that I'm not an asshole or anything. I accidentally rambled which was my fault, but all the other stuff that happened had nothing to do with me. I never intended for CrabBattle to get any harassment or anything. I even patched it up with him a few weeks after MoonRock was established. I apologized to him in a trade server, meanwhile Maf harassed him again. He claimed he never had anything against me, but I don't know what to believe anymore. But yea, here you go.

Closing Statement
Even if you ask around the community, check my Discord messages, or just talk to me, I'm not an asshole. The punishment for leaking staff chat is also only around a 2 week demotion. I would've been back by now, but MoonRock happened, unfortunately.
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^ Vlad saying it was only supposed to be 15 days. This image is not an attack on Vlad or Interlude, I like them both. It's just evidence for my statement.

I hope this has shone some light on the situation and may make you reconsider your vote. Thank you. :giggle:
 

BlackBerry

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It'll be a Neutral for now.
I'm still deciding on my final vote, because it seems like there's gonna be more and more things to judge my vote on appearing every day.
Good Luck Pat <3
 
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M1ghtymouse

No life
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Jan 20, 2020
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alright where can we start, you're fun to play with, you know the rules, and by the looks and sound of it you bring joy to this community and players like to talk to you and play with you on the servers, some of the things that do let you down is that you did leak staff chat, idk what you leaked about the staff chat but you did it as i have seen, you also did abuse your powers a bit by respawning and that lot when you weren't suppose to, there was also the bit where the other community was made and we started to have players from there coming and mass freekilling, interp abusing and some advertised it too, idk if you were part of it but i have heard that you were telling them to not do those things and i have seen that you resigned there too. all these points made i'm going to give a NEUTRAL if anything else does change like other staffs votes i agree with them, my vote will change, could be in a good way or a bad way, GL man.
 
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Bald

Lali-Ho! It's Halloween, mortals!
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Jan 17, 2020
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Neutral to +1

I'm voting +1 because I am giving you another chance to be a better admin than before.

Don't make me regret my choice.

-Good luck:coffee:
 
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M1ghtymouse

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based on the other peoples vote and answers towards you, they want to give you a second chance, i think that's fair i was given a second chance so if i was i think its fair for you to have one too, so im going to change my vote from neutral to +1 GL man.
 
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